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Andrew Monkhouse
Friday, June 13, 2008 01:42
Sixteen pages of photos from the collection of Pauline Ann Hartley
What a wonderful selection of photo’s added to the gallery from Pauline Ann Hartley. Some cracking shots of the old chapel, inside and out. Also some additional shots of the ‘opening of the slide’. I’m sure my grandad (old Ike) had something to do with erecting the slide in the park and had a ‘sly’ ride down it before the official opening day ! Maybe Barbara Chapman can confirm or deny this.

It would be nice if a few more faces could be identified in due course. Most of the pictures are a little before my time, but I can set the ball rolling by naming the teacher on the South Craven School 1957 photo as Mr Sidney Gell. He was still there when I started South Craven in 1971.

The female teacher on the Sutton County Primary School class photo 1952 certainly looks like Mrs Baker (also on the 1965 photo in the gallery). Not sure why she’s only featured on 2 photo’s in total, whereas Sidney Laycock manages to squeeze in on virtually every photo ever taken for every single year !

Good stuff Pauline (and Paul for adding the images to the gallery), thanks.
Steve Brown
Friday, June 13, 2008 12:19
Bizarre and a bit spooky (actually it's simply low probability). I was doing an Internet search at work this afternoon and stumbled on this particular website and on the second click came across the photo of Mrs Baker's Class, 1965. I was about to move on but something stopped me and I kept staring for ages and eventually dredged from the depths of my failing memory that this particular class is the one I joined in its last year at Sutton CP. At first the names and faces meant nothing however slowly I managed to recall at least half the people included. From this other memories seeped out, god it's been a long time! Odd feeling really, it's almost as if someone's walked over my grave
Friday, June 13, 2008 18:08
Thanks, great photos, recognise some Cowinheaders on the South Craven ones.
Still can't enlarge (at all) the Mens Forum one, even with the husband's expert advice?
Surprised to learn that Sutton Baptists 1711 are older than the Baptists at Cowling Hill - 1744, but probably used another building here before our present one, rebuilt c. 1900 due to fire damage I am told.
Andrew Monkhouse
Saturday, June 14, 2008 03:09
Hey Steve Brown – long time no see !

The boy from Oz if I remember correctly. You (and your younger brother David ?) came to live in Sutton from Australia around 1970 and joined us for a year or so in Mr Hartley’s class at Sutton CP. I guess you and your family went back to Oz because I never saw you again once we all left and started at South Craven School.

You were a great goalkeeper for the primary school, always included in the team. The one time I managed to fluke my way into the team (probably a mass out break of flu or something with the other team members) we thrashed the Church School 4-0 with you in goal. Not sure whether I got a touch of the ball that game, I remember kicking at the ball with all my might and missing it completely!

You must remember the playground football from around 8.30 – 9.00 before the first class of the day ? Stephen Barraclough would announce every morning “me, Vinnie, Brownie, tek all” That was until the numbers on the opposite side grew to about 30, then kids would be summoned over the equal the teams up.

Good to hear from you Steve, not sure whether you remember me or not, the kid with the neat handwriting but not very good at football !. I’ve just checked the 1965 photo of Mrs Baker's Class, 15 of the 21 faces were there when we were in Mr Hartley’s class. Are you still in Oz ?
David L
Saturday, June 14, 2008 07:19
Hi allm
Now this should get the minds moving again.
I think I am in the slide opening where Walter is sat on the bottom of the slide.
The partial face appearing under the gent with white hair holding the baby?
Lynda Blundell (nee Phillips)
Vancouver, Canada
Saturday, June 14, 2008 18:48
Does anyone know any of the names of the people in the 1934 picture of the concert at Sutton Baptist? I think I have spotted my mother, Connie Phillips (nee Tingle), who is the second lady from the left next to the sailor with the big mustache. My mother was a singer and did appear in many concerts, choirs, etc.
Barbara Chapman
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 14:41
Referring to Andrew's comments at the top of this discussion, I can confirm that family lore has it that our Grandad, Ike Monkhouse helped to put up the slide and was the first person to slide down it. Just the kind of daft thing he would enjoy doing. He also helped put up one of the bridges in the clough which we always now call Grandad's bridge. He fell off into the beck and had a scar on his head for the rest of his life as a result.
Denis Pickles
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 15:59
David laycock thinks he's pictured on the photo with Walter Thompson sitting on the bottom of the slide. I think I recognise a few more faces. The girl in the flowered dress standing to the right of Walter T is Margaret Towell who lived in Thorncroft, Bent Lane. Immediately behind her is the dark haired Margaret Riley. and if I'm not mistaken, peeping in from the extreme left is Peter Barsby.
Doreen Palfreman
Sutton in Craven
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 20:18
Denis - Surely you recognise Shirley Ellison to the right of the picture and I think it is Margaret Savile who is next to her but only partly on the photograph. Also Rene Robinson is next to Margaret Towell.
Doreen Palfreman
Sutton in Craven
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 20:44
Denis - me again. Looking again at this photo at the bottom right is Clifford Thompson's wife and on her right is Joan (Irving Thompson's) wife On her right is June Smith who used to live in the bungalow up Bent Lane. Peeping out behind Mrs Robson is Spencer Heaton (Neil's Grandad} holding Alan Palfreman, and I think Jean Palfreman is in the middle of the crowd on the slide - looks like your Alan is next to her. At the very top of the slide I think it is Wendy Wallbank.
Denis Pickles
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 06:53
Can this be the same Doreen Margaret Palfreman [nee Brook], born 7th December 1934, father Arthur, of 3 Gibralter Terrace, Sutton-in-Craven? It must be!
Shirley Ellison I remember now you've put a name to the face - and Margaret Saville. But it's almost 60 years ago now! Some names and faces I remember better than others.
What surprises me looking at the photos of the 'Opening of the Slide', is the sheer number of people present. It was a big event in the life of the village. I really can't imagine folk turning out in such numbers if it was to take place today. We're much more sophisticated and take things like a slide or a swing for granted don't we? We managed with much simpler pleasures.
Referring to a different photo, the one of the interior of the chapel, I do believe that I can see my mother Margaret Pickles, standing slightly on her own, on the front row, extreme right. If it isn't her it's someone who stands just like her.

John Reid
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:25
That is indeed Sid Gell. He "taught" my Dad (Mark Reid) through the '60s. Their reletionship was some what acrimonious. Their veiws on the uniform where not the same. He was deputy head during my stint at "Southy". I kept out of his way. I didn't wish to invite trouble based on my Dad's misdemeanours. I left in 1990 & he still there then. I beleive he retired a few years later. I remember a piece in the "Craven Comic" celebrating his many long years of service. As I remember he did enjoy a good game of billiards.
Andew Monkhouse
Thursday, June 19, 2008 03:45
Yes John, Deputy Head Mr Sidney Gell was a no-nonsense teacher at South Craven, a rather imposing but fair man I always found. His love of billiards was well renowned even when I was at ‘Southy’ from the early to mid-70s :-)
Steve Brown
Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:31
Hi Andrew
Never mind your handwriting it's your memory which is your outstanding feature. With your help I do recall playing football in the high walled playground, on what seemed like an enormous slope, with the bike shed at the bottom. Yes your right selection was always a brutally Darwinistic process (good experience for later on in life). Sadly the only interschool games I can remember involved us being beaten - they tend to stick more readily.
Mr Hartleys class, yes wasn't he also the head?
The one thing I do remember particularly having having arrived from Australia was going to school in the dark. Am I right in thinking that this coincided with the experiment in daylight saving?
From Sutton I went to Ermysteds for a short while but hated the travelling so I did a couple of years at South Craven before leaving for South Africa. Since then I've been all over the place only to end up teaching in Huddersfield.
Andrew Monkhouse
Tuesday, June 24, 2008 08:29
Hi Steve, school day’s memories eh !

My recollection of the school v school football is slightly different to yours, even though I was never selected to play for the school team because I used to flinch and blink simultaneously every time the ball was kicked within 4 yards of the general vicinity of where I happened to be stood – usually shivering.

However I did take a keen interest in all the results from the warmth and safety of the classroom and the Council School invariably won all their games….. except when they played Silsden or Glusburn when it was usually a 6-0 drubbing !

Now that you’re back in the area – Huddersfield, have you thought of taking a trip back to Sutton for a look around - the park, the shops, the school. I guarantee you that the sights, the sounds, the air are exactly the same. You’ll be transported back in time 40 years as the memories come flooding back. Stick your nose through the railings of the boys playground, close your eyes and you will again hear the words “me, Vinnie, Brownie tek all” ! (sadly Peter Vincent is no longer with us)

Mr Hartley wasn’t the head, that role fell to Mr Barsby. However Mr Hartley was a great pianist. He and Mrs Bishop would take it in turns to play hymns on the piano during assembly (kids these days have never heard of hymns). One day (around 1970) we got a special treat. Mr Hartley brought in his record player and played Simon and Garfunkel’s newly released single ‘Bridge Over Troubled Water’ to us – remember that !
Steve Brown
Tuesday, June 24, 2008 12:04
Peter Vincent was my best friend at Junior school! No longer with us you say! I'm sorry but I am far too young for my contemporaries to be departing this mortal coil. Perhaps we should have a tontine to see who is the last one standing (I suspect it won't be me!)

One step ahead of you Andrew, I must admit that I have never been prone to nostalgia however your reminisces prompted me to do exactly what you suggested last Sunday morning and you are right the years did drop away. At the same time I found it slightly disturbing for some reason. I suspect I am slightly overwhelmed by the passage of the years.

I'm afraid my memory is never going to compete with yours, things need to be big or bizarre to stick. I think I remember climbing up to the tower? And also doing some kind of complicated daylong wildlife survey in the park?

Oddly, all my family live in Adelaide up on Golden Grove. Nice place Adelaide, a bit quiet. The last time I went into the city it felt like there had been a recent neutron bomb explosion. All the buildings were standing and there was minimal damage however there were only a handful of survivors wandering around aimlessly.

And yes now that you come to mention it I do remember a trip to Glusburn, it took me ages to work out how I could have a good game but we would still end up beaten 6 0
Doreen Palfreman
Sutton in Craven
Sunday, June 29, 2008 07:35
Dear Webmaster

Please could you let me have the e-mail address for Denis Pickles. I have e-mailed his brother Alan but I think he must be away. as I am sure he would have replied.

Many thanks.
Paul Wilkinson
Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:37
Hi Doreen - I've forwarded details to your email address.
tim jackson
Sunday, November 9, 2008 16:47
Hi Andrew, hope things are going well with you, Steve Brown-do you still write in capital letters?

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